Player
WRGeorge Pickens
WR · DAL
579.1
Career PHL Pts
9.2
Pts / Game
63
Games
26.0
Best Week
Wk 16 · 2023
4
Seasons Played
4
Seasons Rostered
DSC$ History & Keeper Progression
| Season | How Acquired | DSC$ | Owner |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2022 PHL XVII | Drafted | $4 | Applegate |
| 2023 PHL XVIII | Kept (K1) | $9 | Applegate |
| 2024 PHL XIX | Kept (K2) | $19 | Applegate |
| 2025 PHL XX | Drafted | $18 | Elbay |
| 2026 PHL XXI | Kept (K1) | $23 | |
| 2027 PHL XXII | Kept (K2) | $33 | |
| 2028 PHL XXIII | Kept (K3) | $53 | |
| 2029 PHL XXIV | Kept (K4) | $93 | |
| 2030 PHL XXV | Kept (K5) | $173 | |
| 2031 PHL XXVI | Kept (IE) |
Shaded rows are upcoming seasons — the keeper cost if kept at that tag.
Transactions
| Season | Week | Date | Type | Detail |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 PHL XX | Week 11 | 11-11-25 | Traded |
from Weiss to Conner Kyler Murray Dropped FROM Williams
|
| 2025 PHL XX | Week 6 | 10-07-25 | Traded |
from Elbay to Weiss Spencer Shrader Dropped FROM Weiss
|
| 2025 PHL XX | Offseason | 08-23-25 | Drafted | to Elbay |
| 2025 PHL XX | Offseason | 08-21-25 | Not Kept | |
| 2024 PHL XIX | Offseason | 08-31-24 | Kept | to Applegate |
| 2023 PHL XVIII | Offseason | 08-26-23 | Kept | to Applegate |
| 2022 PHL XVII | Offseason | 08-20-22 | Drafted | to Applegate |
Weekly Stats & Projections
| Game Info | Passing | Rushing | Receiving | Miscellaneous | ||||||||||||||||
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| Year | Wk | Team | Opp | Owner | Slot | Pts | Comp | Att | Yds | TD | INT | Att | Yds | TD | Rec | Yds | TD | 2P | Fum | Misc TD |
| 2022 PHL XVII | 1 | PIT | @ CIN | Applegate | BENCH | 0.2 | 1 | 3 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 1 | PIT | @ CIN | Applegate | BENCH | 6.1 | 3.3 | 42.7 | 0.3 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 2 | PIT | VS NE | Applegate | BENCH | 2.5 | 1 | 23 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 2 | PIT | VS NE | Applegate | BENCH | 4.6 | 2.4 | 30.5 | 0.2 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 3 | PIT | @ CLE | Applegate | BENCH | 3.6 | 3 | 39 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 3 | PIT | @ CLE | Applegate | BENCH | 4.5 | 2.3 | 31.0 | 0.2 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 4 | PIT | VS NYJ | Applegate | BENCH | 10.8 | 6 | 102 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 4 | PIT | VS NYJ | Applegate | BENCH | 5.8 | 3.0 | 38.0 | 0.3 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 5 | PIT | @ BUF | Applegate | BENCH | 11.5 | 6 | 83 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 5 | PIT | @ BUF | Applegate | BENCH | 5.5 | 2.8 | 39.8 | 0.2 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 6 | PIT | VS TB | Applegate | BENCH | 2.9 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 27 | ||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 6 | PIT | VS TB | Applegate | BENCH | 5.8 | 3.1 | 38.6 | 0.3 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 7 | PIT | @ MIA | Applegate | BENCH | 13.1 | 6 | 61 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 7 | PIT | @ MIA | Applegate | BENCH | 6.0 | 3.5 | 46.0 | 0.2 | 0.0 | ||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 8 | PIT | @ PHI | Applegate | BENCH | 0.0 | ||||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 8 | PIT | @ PHI | Applegate | BENCH | 6.4 | 3.3 | 41.7 | 0.3 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 10 | PIT | VS NO | Applegate | WR/TE | 12.7 | 2 | 23 | 1 | 3 | 32 | |||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 10 | PIT | VS NO | Applegate | WR/TE | 7.3 | 3.8 | 47.6 | 0.4 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 11 | PIT | VS CIN | Applegate | WR | 13.5 | 4 | 83 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 11 | PIT | VS CIN | Applegate | WR | 6.9 | 3.6 | 45.0 | 0.4 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 12 | PIT | @ IND | Applegate | WR | 8.8 | 3 | 57 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 12 | PIT | @ IND | Applegate | WR | 7.4 | 4.0 | 53.0 | 0.3 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 13 | PIT | @ ATL | Applegate | WR | 0.1 | 1 | 2 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 13 | PIT | @ ATL | Applegate | WR | 7.3 | 4.0 | 50.0 | 0.4 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 14 | PIT | VS BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.2 | 3 | 78 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 14 | PIT | VS BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.5 | 3.3 | 42.2 | 0.4 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 15 | PIT | @ CAR | Applegate | WR/TE | 5.5 | 2 | 53 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 15 | PIT | @ CAR | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.3 | 3.3 | 41.2 | 0.3 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 16 | PIT | VS OAK | Applegate | WR/TE | 11.8 | 5 | 57 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 16 | PIT | VS OAK | Applegate | WR/TE | 5.8 | 3.3 | 44.0 | 0.2 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 17 | PIT | @ BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 3.9 | 2 | 29 | ||||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 17 | PIT | @ BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.1 | 3.1 | 47.0 | 0.2 | |||||||||||
| 2022 PHL XVII | 18 | PIT | VS CLE | 6.0 | 3.1 | 39.3 | 0.3 | |||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 1 | PIT | VS SF | Applegate | BENCH | 3.4 | 5 | 36 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 1 | PIT | VS SF | Applegate | BENCH | 6.9 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.5 | 48.1 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 2 | PIT | VS CLE | Applegate | BENCH | 16.5 | 4 | 127 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 2 | PIT | VS CLE | Applegate | BENCH | 7.7 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.9 | 54.0 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 3 | PIT | @ OAK | Applegate | WR | 9.0 | 4 | 75 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 3 | PIT | @ OAK | Applegate | WR | 8.7 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 4.4 | 61.0 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 4 | PIT | @ HOU | Applegate | WR/TE | 1.7 | 3 | 25 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 4 | PIT | @ HOU | Applegate | WR/TE | 7.7 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.9 | 53.7 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 5 | PIT | VS BAL | Applegate | BENCH | 21.7 | 1 | 16 | 6 | 130 | 1 | |||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 5 | PIT | VS BAL | Applegate | BENCH | 6.4 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.5 | 46.0 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 7 | PIT | @ LAR | Applegate | WR/TE | 12.1 | 5 | 107 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 7 | PIT | @ LAR | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.2 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 4.2 | 57.4 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 8 | PIT | VS JAC | Applegate | BENCH | 7.5 | 1 | 22 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 8 | PIT | VS JAC | Applegate | BENCH | 9.4 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 4.6 | 64.0 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 9 | PIT | VS TEN | Applegate | WR | -0.1 | 2 | -1 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 9 | PIT | VS TEN | Applegate | WR | 8.7 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 4.4 | 60.4 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 10 | PIT | VS GB | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.0 | 3 | 45 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 10 | PIT | VS GB | Applegate | WR/TE | 7.7 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.8 | 52.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 11 | PIT | @ CLE | Applegate | BENCH | 4.5 | 1 | -1 | 4 | 38 | ||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 11 | PIT | @ CLE | Applegate | BENCH | 6.4 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 3.3 | 45.1 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 12 | PIT | @ CIN | Applegate | BENCH | 5.9 | 3 | 58 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 12 | PIT | @ CIN | Applegate | BENCH | 6.4 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 3.3 | 44.9 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 13 | PIT | VS ARI | Applegate | WR/TE | 9.7 | 4 | 86 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 13 | PIT | VS ARI | Applegate | WR/TE | 7.2 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.7 | 50.6 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 14 | PIT | VS NE | Applegate | WR/TE | 1.3 | 5 | 19 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 14 | PIT | VS NE | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.5 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 3.3 | 45.5 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 15 | PIT | @ IND | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.1 | 3 | 47 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 15 | PIT | @ IND | Applegate | WR/TE | 7.0 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.5 | 48.8 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 16 | PIT | VS CIN | Applegate | FLEX | 26.0 | 4 | 195 | 2 | |||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 16 | PIT | VS CIN | Applegate | FLEX | 6.5 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 3.3 | 45.5 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 17 | PIT | @ SEA | Applegate | WR/TE | 13.7 | 7 | 131 | ||||||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 17 | PIT | @ SEA | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.2 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 3.2 | 43.8 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2023 PHL XVIII | 18 | PIT | @ BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 7.6 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 3.5 | 51.0 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 1 | PIT | @ ATL | Applegate | WR/TE | 9.0 | 1 | -10 | 6 | 85 | ||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 1 | PIT | @ ATL | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.2 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.0 | 60.4 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 2 | PIT | @ DEN | Applegate | WR/TE | 3.9 | 2 | 29 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 2 | PIT | @ DEN | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.3 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.1 | 61.3 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 3 | PIT | VS LAC | Applegate | WR/TE | 6.8 | 5 | 57 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 3 | PIT | VS LAC | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.5 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.0 | 60.7 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 4 | PIT | @ IND | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.5 | 7 | 113 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 4 | PIT | @ IND | Applegate | WR/TE | 8.4 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.1 | 61.2 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 5 | PIT | VS DAL | Applegate | BENCH | 2.7 | 3 | 26 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 5 | PIT | VS DAL | Applegate | BENCH | 9.1 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.4 | 65.2 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 6 | PIT | @ OAK | Applegate | BENCH | 5.5 | 3 | 53 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 6 | PIT | @ OAK | Applegate | BENCH | 8.7 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.2 | 63.6 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 7 | PIT | VS NYJ | Applegate | BENCH | 16.4 | 5 | 111 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 7 | PIT | VS NYJ | Applegate | BENCH | 8.6 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.0 | 61.0 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 8 | PIT | VS NYG | Applegate | WR | 7.9 | 4 | 74 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 8 | PIT | VS NYG | Applegate | WR | 9.2 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.4 | 65.1 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 10 | PIT | @ WAS | Applegate | WR/TE | 15.3 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 91 | 1 | |||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 10 | PIT | @ WAS | Applegate | WR/TE | 9.0 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.4 | 66.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 11 | PIT | VS BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 9.9 | 8 | 89 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 11 | PIT | VS BAL | Applegate | WR/TE | 9.3 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.5 | 68.4 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 12 | PIT | @ CLE | Applegate | WR | 5.2 | 4 | 48 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 12 | PIT | @ CLE | Applegate | WR | 8.3 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 4.1 | 61.6 | 0.3 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 13 | PIT | @ CIN | Applegate | WR | 12.9 | 3 | 74 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 13 | PIT | @ CIN | Applegate | WR | 9.5 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 4.6 | 69.6 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 14 | PIT | VS CLE | Applegate | BENCH | |||||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 14 | PIT | VS CLE | Applegate | BENCH | |||||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 15 | PIT | @ PHI | Applegate | BENCH | |||||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 15 | PIT | @ PHI | Applegate | BENCH | |||||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 16 | PIT | @ BAL | Applegate | BENCH | |||||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 16 | PIT | @ BAL | Applegate | BENCH | |||||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 17 | PIT | VS KC | Applegate | WR | 5.3 | 3 | 50 | ||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 17 | PIT | VS KC | Applegate | WR | 9.5 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 4.7 | 69.3 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 18 | PIT | VS CIN | Applegate | WR | 0.0 | 1 | |||||||||||||
| 2024 PHL XIX | 18 | PIT | VS CIN | Applegate | WR | 10.5 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 5.2 | 76.8 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 1 | DAL | @ PHI | Elbay | WR | 4.0 | 3 | 30 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 1 | DAL | @ PHI | Elbay | WR | 7.6 | 0.2 | 0.8 | 3.6 | 52.3 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 2 | DAL | VS NYG | Elbay | WR/TE | 14.5 | 5 | 68 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 2 | DAL | VS NYG | Elbay | WR/TE | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 3 | DAL | @ CHI | Elbay | WR/TE | 14.5 | 5 | 68 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 3 | DAL | @ CHI | Elbay | WR/TE | 7.8 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 0.0 | 3.4 | 55.5 | 0.3 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 4 | DAL | VS GB | Elbay | WR/TE | 25.9 | 8 | 134 | 2 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 4 | DAL | VS GB | Elbay | WR/TE | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 5 | DAL | @ NYJ | Elbay | WR/TE | 10.8 | 2 | 57 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 5 | DAL | @ NYJ | Elbay | WR/TE | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 6 | DAL | @ CAR | Weiss | WR/TE | 23.2 | 9 | 168 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 6 | DAL | @ CAR | Weiss | WR/TE | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 7 | DAL | VS WAS | Weiss | WR/TE | 8.5 | 4 | 82 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 7 | DAL | VS WAS | Weiss | WR/TE | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 8 | DAL | @ DEN | Weiss | WR | 10.2 | 7 | 78 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 8 | DAL | @ DEN | Weiss | WR | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 9 | DAL | VS ARI | Weiss | WR | 11.3 | 6 | 79 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 9 | DAL | VS ARI | Weiss | WR | 8.0 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 3.8 | 55.5 | 0.4 | 0.1 | ||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 11 | DAL | @ OAK | Conner | WR | 22.6 | 9 | 144 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 11 | DAL | @ OAK | Conner | WR | 10.0 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 4.4 | 69.1 | 0.5 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 12 | DAL | VS PHI | Conner | FLEX | 21.7 | 9 | 146 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 12 | DAL | VS PHI | Conner | FLEX | 10.7 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 4.4 | 73.6 | 0.5 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 13 | DAL | VS KC | Conner | WR/TE | 10.9 | 6 | 88 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 13 | DAL | VS KC | Conner | WR/TE | 12.0 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 5.5 | 83.3 | 0.6 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 14 | DAL | @ DET | Conner | WR/TE | 4.5 | 5 | 37 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 14 | DAL | @ DET | Conner | WR/TE | 12.7 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 0.0 | 5.0 | 89.4 | 0.6 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 15 | DAL | VS MIN | Conner | WR/TE | 4.2 | 3 | 33 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 15 | DAL | VS MIN | Conner | WR/TE | 11.4 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 5.1 | 80.3 | 0.5 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 16 | DAL | VS LAC | Conner | WR/TE | 18.7 | 7 | 130 | 1 | |||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 16 | DAL | VS LAC | Conner | WR/TE | 11.0 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 0.0 | 4.8 | 77.8 | 0.5 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 17 | DAL | @ WAS | Conner | WR/TE | 9.2 | 4 | 78 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 17 | DAL | @ WAS | Conner | WR/TE | 12.4 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 0.0 | 5.1 | 86.4 | 0.6 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 18 | DAL | @ NYG | Conner | WR/TE | 0.6 | 1 | 9 | ||||||||||||
| 2025 PHL XX | 18 | DAL | @ NYG | Conner | WR/TE | 10.7 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 0.0 | 4.6 | 77.0 | 0.5 | 0.0 | |||||||
| 2026 PHL XXI | 1 | DAL | @ NYG | Elbay | WR | |||||||||||||||
| 2026 PHL XXI | 1 | DAL | @ NYG | Elbay | WR | |||||||||||||||
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